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  • [-]Has anyone gone against their doctor's wishes? 39 w preg and doc wants to induce me for pregnancy induced hypertension. I do not want to be induced and have no other complications. Not my first child either. Thoughts? What will happen if I say no?

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    07.24.08, 01:23 PM [ Flag ]
    • i would not mess with hypertension

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      07.24.08, 01:24 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • me either.

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        07.24.08, 01:24 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • why? There are actually theories that mild hypertension is fine and the risks of induction are greater. BTW had it with #1 too and never amounted to anything

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        07.24.08, 01:26 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • you hired your doctor b/c you appreciated his medical expertise. i wouldn't say you have to blindly follow him, but he has a valid and medically accepted reason for giving his advice. i think you're a fool to ignore it.

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          07.24.08, 01:34 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • I was induced b/c of low fluid which was related to HBP. Can you see if they will induce with cervadil instead of pitocin? That and having my midwife strip my membranes is all it took with DD.

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        07.24.08, 07:24 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • My sister is a NICU nurse and she says that she would not go past her due date--she sees to many kids come in with complications (miconium, etc) from late deliveries. That plus the hypertension, I think I'd listen to the doc. But you have to decide for yourself.

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      07.24.08, 01:25 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • Hypertension is a pretty serious complication for both you and the baby. Get induced. If you say no, you'll probably proceed into a crisis that will require emergency intervention and puts your and the baby's life at risk.

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      07.24.08, 01:27 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • OP: so it seems that no one goes against their dr's wishes. I have done a lot of research on this and it seems there is no evidence that stable mild hypertension late in preg has material risks. I know that the dr. wants to prevent that 0.1% chance, but honestly I don't think that is worth trading into a 25% chance of c-section with induction.

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        07.24.08, 01:29 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • How mild is "mild?"

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          07.24.08, 01:31 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • I think you're underestimating the risk of hypertension-related complications AND their severity, while overestimating the risk of a c-section from induction. The severity of the risk of the former far outweighs the severity of the risk of the latter. But if you're comfortable with your decision, then discuss with your doctor.

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          07.24.08, 01:31 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • op: I went with dr. advise for #1 because I didn't know my body in pregnancy, but now that I'm on pregnancy #3, I know myself pretty well

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            07.24.08, 01:32 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • I think, you need to think again. You are not a doctor. The internet is not "research". If you don't think your doctor is up to par then find another one. But to put your health and/or the babies health at risk because you fear a C section is not prudent. You have delivered vaginally before, chances are very good that you will again. Many, many are induced and have uneventful vaginal deliveries. Actually far more than end up with a c section.

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          07.24.08, 04:50 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • OP: I consider reading peer reviewed medical articles on the internet acceptable research. That is what the drs read too

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            07.24.08, 07:20 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
            • Yeah, but they know what it REALLY means, and you don't. Or else you could get to be a doctor by surfing the web.

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              07.24.08, 07:27 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • I think you make a mistake considering this to be the doctor's "wishes." It is the doctor's medical opinion of the best choice for you -- disagreeing is dangerous unless you are really qualified to make a medical decision, or get a second opinion. From a doctor.

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          07.24.08, 07:19 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • Happened to me & I was induced & all was fine. In general, I trust my doctor's opinion.

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      07.24.08, 01:28 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • op: I've been induced before and it was fine, but my preference remains to not be induced due to the other risks

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        07.24.08, 01:30 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • What risks?

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          07.24.08, 04:48 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • risks of putting the baby into distress as a result of the strong contractions due to pitocin

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            07.24.08, 07:13 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
            • You are minimizing the risk of pregnancy induced hypertension on the babies. Perhaps your dr is worried because of other mild signs, a little protein in your urine, a little swelling? other signs of pre-eclampsia? search DIC...

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              07.24.08, 07:46 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • I was induced, delivered in 3 hours, no epidural, it was fine. Had high blood pressure and thought reason they induce is because there's a chance placenta can fail if go too far over.

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      07.24.08, 01:33 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • I had high blood pressure throughout my pregnancy. While my doctor was a little concerned and watched it closely she never pushed me to get induced. It really depends on the doctor.

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      07.24.08, 01:35 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • Can you see another Dr. in the practice and get their opinion?

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      07.24.08, 02:10 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • I was in the same situation and had the induction. Although the induction was hard, I would do it again. No reason to risk the complications of hypertension.

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      07.24.08, 05:53 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • Sorry to ask, but are you crazy?? What's the point of saying no....what do you know that would make you go against the judgement of a man who has probably delivered hundreds of babies??

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      07.24.08, 07:35 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
  • [-]Is being a SAHM mother the hardest job in the world? I'm writing an article and want to hear from you.

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    06.08.08, 06:27 AM [ Flag ]
    • I don't agree with you, but go ahead and write your book.

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      06.08.08, 06:28 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • I'm actually neutral. Why don't you think it's the hardest job?

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        06.08.08, 06:30 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • Sometimes it can be emotionally isolating, but it is much hard to get up go to work and then still have to care for a child.

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          06.08.08, 06:33 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • my dh would disagree with you. he says he'd never be able to stick in there on the weekends when I'm away if he didn't know that he could go back to work on monday.

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            06.08.08, 08:06 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
            • it's different for men. I have done both and WOHM is way harder ---in every way. But as a SAHM i was more tired at the end of the day.

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              06.09.08, 07:26 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
              • newsflash: that's YOUR opinion. not true for every woman. I would find SAH much harder

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                06.10.08, 10:03 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                • np: Isn't this about opinions? How is someone supposed to weigh in on this subject with anything other than their opinion?

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                  07.16.08, 07:20 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
              • a dh here. Men are no more hommogeneous than women. I'd be a SAHD in a heartbeat if I could.

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                07.16.08, 07:28 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • np- i also think that it's fun and super easy compared to every otehr job that i ever had. it can be a bit isolating to be home at times but so are many jobs that are not in big, social, young offices. and i worked as a wall street attorney and changed careers into a more common industry outside law. broad internships behind me also. SAHM is not at all hardest job and it makes someone sounds so dysfunctional and pathetic to say that. how could anyone think it's hard? did they never really have a challenging true career?

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          06.08.08, 08:01 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • Someone is actually publishing a story with that hoary conceit? Well, they hired a lazy journo, so it makes sense they're pretty lazy themselves.

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      06.08.08, 06:28 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • it's definitely a hard job ... but i am sure there are much harder... what defines making it the hardest job in the WORLD?

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      06.08.08, 06:30 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • Good question. Among other reasons I've heard are the 24 hour nature of the job and the isolation. Do these make sense to you?

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        06.08.08, 06:34 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • the 24 hour nature of the job is there whether you WOHM or SAHM

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          06.08.08, 06:39 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • np. It is a 24hr job but you have the freedom to go out and meet up with other Moms so probably less isolating than working all day and then having to come home to care for kids. It is also one of the most rewarding jobs imo. To be honest I think this would be a pretty boring topic for a book.

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          06.08.08, 06:40 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • nnp: why does everyone keep calling it a book? didn't OP say article? also, i find woh f/t FAR less isolating than i'd find sah.

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            06.08.08, 06:41 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • By the looks of the social circle of SAHMs at dc's pre-K. I would say isolation is not the major issue.

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          06.08.08, 06:51 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • ITA. isolation was working from home before having kids. i had zero chance to make friends. now, i'm surrounded by chipper, chatty women my age.

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            06.08.08, 08:03 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • I WOH. Do you think I get to put my feet up and relax as soon a I leave the office? I still have to get up at 3 AM for nightmares and upset stomachs.

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          06.08.08, 05:06 PM [ Flagged | link to this post ]
          • Yep me too and still have to be up at 6am the next day to go to a job where my boss is an arrogant and condescending pr#(k. I consider SAHMs very luck, they don't HAVE to do both.

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            06.10.08, 10:00 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • Ok, here's my two cents. and i've done both. When you are earning your living doing something you have financial reward, positive feedback from your employer and respect from your peers. It's not the day itself that's so "hard". It's draining and repetitive and the truth is NO matter what you did in your former life, that doesn't carry over. No one even asks what you used to do. It levels the playing field and not in the best way.

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          06.09.08, 07:15 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • it's not the hardest (whatever that means), but just very tedious and people tend to overparent, which is why you hear so many complaints. an intelligent adult isn't meant to spend all day, everyday doing activities meant for a toddler.

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      06.08.08, 06:38 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • wow. that's really insulting to teachers who work with toddlers. Dumb ass.

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        06.08.08, 06:43 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • np. only if you think all teachers do is play with toddlers all day. I think there might be slightly more to their jobs than that. So who is the DA

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          06.08.08, 06:47 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • yeah, they also prepare to do work with the toddlers. Seriously -- you are so condescending. I'm sure your kids really love you and appreciate all the time you spend with them. Oh, and I repeat -- YOU are the dumb ass.

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            06.08.08, 06:49 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • np- teachers of pre-school do not do any more than i do with DB other than they juggle a bunch of db's at once.

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          06.08.08, 08:04 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • You are an idiot. PreK teachers have to have a lesson plan. They have to ensure that each child is learning and progressing. It is not just play time.

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            06.08.08, 08:07 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
            • the mentally ill who need meds and verbally abuse should be at therapy and not hurling crude names on UB. that said, i do have lesson plans for DB also.

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              06.08.08, 08:08 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
            • New to this thread but must concur and add more. As someone who works in a preschool and has 3 DCs, I can tell you that working at school is much harder and requires preparation, patience (it's one thing to deal with your DC, another to deal with 6 others who aren't yours), manage unruly behavior that is all over the map (wide range of normal), neurotic parents, and agency demands. You are kidding yourself if you think it is the same as being with one, just multiplied a bit. With one, you can zone out or answer the phone and watch him/her play. You cannot do that in preschool/toddler program.

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              06.08.08, 02:27 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • teachers get off work at a reasonable time, sahm folks don't. Dumb ass.

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          06.09.08, 07:17 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • It's hard when you are trying to live on one low income. I imagine it's easier if you have a higher HHI

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      06.08.08, 06:38 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • we have a high HHI and it's still hard. money doesn't make the tantrums, the mindless conversation, the constant attention giving, the never having time to yourself even if you have help go away.

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        06.08.08, 06:40 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • True, but you can probably afford clothes, vacations and classes and don't have a sheriff knocking at your door with an eviction notice.

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          06.08.08, 06:42 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • Why do you SAH if it is that tough on you financially

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        06.08.08, 06:58 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • np to some of us, the sacrifice is worth it. I can'r imagine not having thses first 3 years with DD. I know sometimes there is no choice, but we made it work. Worth it to us

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          06.08.08, 07:00 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • I don't anymore. We wanted to try to make it work, I had lost my job when DD was 9 months. It was ok for a year or so, but got real hard. I finally found a job when DD was 3 1/2 yo. Life is much better now.

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          06.08.08, 07:10 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • I agree. Being a SAM and stressing about money sucks.

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        06.08.08, 08:08 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • I think this topic has been done to death, frankly.

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      06.08.08, 06:41 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • from ME? You want to hear from little ol' ME? Wow. This is my first interview with a real journalist, so I'm a little nervous.... Will my picture be in the article? Do you want pictures of my kids? We went to glamour shots last week so I could email you some darling ones...

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      06.08.08, 06:42 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]