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Wishing HCHS would post their 2008-09 admissions cutoff. Too hard to calculate a number for 90th percentile with this year's bizarre testing outcomes.
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yes. State shifted (over past few years) cutoff for level 4 to top 4% instead of 10%. This increased the number of kids in level 3 and blurred the 90% line, which determines HCHS testing eligibility. This year a child needed to score no more than one question 'wrong' to stay in level 4.
[ Reply | Options ]That happens every couple of years. Never affects the number testing for Hunter. Top 10% still remains about the same population. The standardized tests are always graded on that crazy curve. Top 10% will always be top 10%.
[ Reply | Options ]NP: Is that really true? I have to be skeptical since my dc scored 4s on both 5th grade ELA and Math tests this yr (not really a VBA), but I assumed it wasn't all that uncommon.
[ Reply | Options ]Well, it used to be more common than it is now. Look at the state charts for specific info but the level 4 english score cutoff has risen to narrow that group to less than 5% of testers. Can't figure out why but it's a fact. Your child will certainly qualify for testing. She'll bring a letter home from school.
[ Reply | Options ]It's always nice to be considered, but likely will not bother unless we hate her middle school.
[ Reply | Options ]IMO this is actually more about high school - and not worrying about HS admissions - than it is about middle school. But of course, you and dc can definitely not apply!
[ Reply | Options ]Usually people who say they're not applying actually are. Just saving face if it doesn't work out. Understandable but transparent on testing day when those parents & kids are in line with you outside the building. Then they say they won't go even if they get a spot. Then you see them on new students' day...
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Does anyone know when HCHS usually posts this? Has anyone more obsessed than me called them to ask?
[ Reply | Options ]Last year: 705 ELA, 732 Math but this year will be different so if your kid is in the 700-750 range on either test, it's an unknown for a while yet. Above 750 on both tests seems to be a safe bet you'll be invited.
[ Reply | Options ]This year's Math seemed to be easier - more 4s, so cutoff will probably be higher. The ELA this year was harder, so cutoff will probably be lower.
[ Reply | Options ]Not so, there were far fewer level 4 students this year. Go look at the state data.
[ Reply | Options ]That's not true for Math, at least for NYC - 21% of 5th graders got 4s last year, and 25% got 4s this year. Is it different statewide?
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From the DOE website - here's the link to the Excel file. http://schools.nyc.gov/Accountability/Reports/Data/testresults/2008/math/Excel/Math%20City%20by%20Grade%202008.xls
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Where is the state data comparing state 5th grade math results from 2007 to 2008? Can't find this.
[ Reply | Options ]Go to the link she specifies above. 25% of kids score Level 4 in Math 2008 but only 4.3% score Level 4 in ELA, hence the need for HCHS to draw that bright white line!!
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They posted this years cutoffs: Total Reading / ELA: NY State Test: ?701 Scaled Score or ?90th Percentile Total Mathematics: NY State Test ?744 Scaled Score or ?90th Percentile http://www.hchs.hunter.cuny.edu/index.php/admissions
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